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JMBarrie / Re: J. M. Barrie's MBTI personality
« on: January 21, 2021, 03:22:22 PM »
The more I learn about it, the more I see J.M.B. was not interested in children but in their minds.

In Peter & Wendy, he says that Neverland is children's minds and I even see the mirror map in it with religion and murders and hangings and magical rewards (when you lose a tooth) all that is good vs bad,... cause they are my conscious "personality" which is his uncounscious one.

He loved George and Michael more because their mind was close to his. Sometimes, you're attracted to your contrary too but he didn't get along very well with Jack (ISTJ) cause when we mean our contrary, we mean our uncouscious brain functions so our second "personality" and that's not Jack's case...

Children learn their first function between age 0 and 7 then the 2nd one til 12 and so forth so "We too have been there but we shall land no more" as he says cause we can't go back to only having one function or 2 and their mirror ones (and super ego and subconscious ones).

I think that's all it is. People search too far for things that don't exist in his relationship with the Llewelyn Davies boys. And again, he wrote it very clearly on his pages, no more explanation needed. I know he knew about it cause he says it's really confusing and he doesn't know if it's part of the same map or not.

I would like to know who had the idea to create water, garden, sun,... faeries please. Is it Disney or is it Barrie? Cause it's Carl Jung's work... It's brain functions on how we view/perceive/imagine/... the world, it's MBTI: created by 2 women: Myers and Briggs during WW2 to know which job was best suited for women using Carl Jung's brain functions... It's what the faeries do... It's what the hat in Harry Potter does by reading the children's minds to see in which Hogwarts house they belong... (J.K. Rowling said herself that she is INFJ by the way. Psychology is our field). I hope I don't take away the magical view Barrie had by saying this but I still think psychology is magic and that Barrie knew is uncounscious so knew it too.
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Davies Family / Trilby in The X-Files
« on: December 14, 2020, 03:47:59 PM »
Hi,

I don't know if this will interest many people but there is an X-Files episode called Pusher in the season 3 of the series and it's an hommage to George du Maurier's Trilby (Svengali), we even see a bit of the movie in the episode. If you want to watch it...
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General topic / Re: Peter Pan Statue in Edgmont Park, Brussels
« on: December 14, 2020, 03:44:54 PM »
I didn't know any of that either, thank you very much for all the informations.

I will look at The Morgue, thank you for all the work that you do for this site, Mister Birkin.
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General topic / Re: Checking addresses
« on: December 12, 2020, 03:44:37 PM »
Thank you very much :) It's very helpful :D I've already been to some places in Hampstead and Bloomsbury. I don't know for 15 Bayswater Road, maybe it was related to Mary Ansell, I don't remember where I saw this address. I didn't know for Gerald du Maurier, thank you.

Thank you very much for the initials on the window :D
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JMBarrie / Re: Barrie and Frohman plaque at the Savoy Grill
« on: December 12, 2020, 12:32:35 PM »
I don't know but I would like to know the answer
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General topic / Checking addresses
« on: December 12, 2020, 12:25:21 PM »
Hi everyone,

Did someone (Barrie or the L. Davies family or the du Maurier family or someone related to them) live at 15 Bayswater Road?

And did the Llewelyn family live at 18 Craven Terrace? In the appartments that are there nowadays?

I've also seen "JMB" carved in a window. I don't know where it is and I don't know if Barrie carved it himself...

Thank you a lot and have a nice day
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JMBarrie / Re: J. M. Barrie's personality
« on: December 12, 2020, 12:10:04 PM »
I did some more research for Barrie's respect about introversion and extraversion and I found out that ENFPs are the most introverted extroverts and INFJs are the most extroverted introverts. I can sometimes look extroverted though I'm not. ENFPs often have mood swings because they feel good during a social event then someone says something and they feel attacked so they think a lot and don't talk anymore.

ENFPs and INFJs have the same functions: intuition, feeling, thinking then sensing but they mirror each other because they are introverted first for INFJs: introverted intuition, extroverted feeling, introverted thinking, extroverted sensing and extroverted first for the ENFPs: extroverted intuition, introverted feeling, extroverted thinking, introverted sensing. That's why we get on well.
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General topic / Peter Pan Statue in Edgmont Park, Brussels
« on: December 12, 2020, 11:20:24 AM »
Hello everyone,

I tried to look if this subject had already been discussed here (I'm quite new to the forum) but I don't see it so: I'm Belgian but I didn't know there was a replica of Peter Pan's statue from the Kensington Gardens in Brussels... :
https://focusonbelgium.be/en/facts/did-you-know-statue-peter-pan-situated-egmont-park-symbolises-friendship#:~:text=The%20bronze%20Peter%20Pan%20is,second%20of%20June%20in%202010.

It's great and I will go and see it if it's still there and I was wondering what other places related to the Du Maurier family we could visit in Belgium, apart from the place where George Llewelyn Davies was unfortunately killed during the 1st world war. I think George du Maurier lived in Antwerp but I don't know where.

Thank you very much

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Peter Pan / Re: Seeing Peter Pan Elements in Other Films or Media
« on: November 25, 2020, 10:12:35 PM »
Hi Dani,

Yes in movies like Big, Miss Peregrine and the Peculiar Children, the series LOST (for the Island and the fact that you can't escape it),...

:)
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JMBarrie / Re: J. M. Barrie's personality
« on: November 21, 2020, 08:21:34 AM »
Hi,

I did some more research (I watched videos of an INFJ guy like me) and found out the letters are connected and have an impact on each other so in fact when you are introvert, it means you are focussed on introspection and you have introverted intuition (IN) as a 1st fonction and introverted is always your dominant trait. I have extraverted sensing (Se) and the fact that I have a J at the end will make my introverted intuition different than the ones who have a P at the end for example.

I took the test as if I were Barrie and he didn't give a damn about reputation (typical xNFP) (I think for his divorce that he just didn't want to be alone). I also noticed when doing the test that P's are very capable of being perfectionnists and go to rehearsals for example but in day to day life, they are more open than me. There was a question about possibilites and as a J's I can choose between 3 possibilities when P's will think outside the box and be more spontaneous, adventurous. The result was ENFP. If you look at the description of the Campaigner, it's him, right down to the mischief with his friend at Dumfries :D (Attention that this test only gives the brain main functions, not the behaviour).

This morning, in bed, I understood that I was Captain Hook. I will explain: All people with NF in them are the diplomats: INFJ, INFP, ENFJ, ENFP (Welcome to the club by the way, Mister Birkin :D). We are believers. We believe in a cause. I as an INFJ believe in good and bad and want to make the Earth a better, an ideal place (my feet are on this ground). Gandhi but also Osama bin Laden were INFJ's. It's Jesus vs Hitler. INFP's believe in a cause and are very imaginative and love to write and create. For example, it's Mulder on The X-Files (my favourite TV series). Mulder believes in extraterrestrials (it's an extreme of course) and will do anyhting to pursue his cause. ENFP's are my opposite cause they believe in an ideal world but outside of Earth: that is Neverland! Barrie's brain functions were my opposites which means sometimes he wanted to have his feet on the ground and deal about Earth's issues but it wasn't him.

Hook wants so badly to escape reality and be Peter Pan but Peter Pan knows Hook can never be like him. Hook will never be able to fly. He enjoys Neverland but not at his fullest. He asks Peter but he replies "no" so it irritates Hook, which leads to fights. Hook wants to go back to Earth but he can't. Peter won't let him. Peter loves Hook and doesn't want him to go and Hook loves Peter too but they are different.

Peter could still be an ESFP (The Amuser type in the Adventurers' category) though but it makes a little less sense to me cause the direct contrary of it is the ISTP: the Adventurer who is clever and uses weapons he builds like MacGyver). And an adult is more viewed like an ISTJ in a child's mind and Peter Pan his all the contrary so ENFP to me. Internet says ESTJ for Hook. Could be but there is so much more than his leadership and planning to him in my opinion (for an ESTJ too, they are not just that but I want to say that they saw it in him so they say ESTJ for that but I think they forget that Hook is Peter's counter part).
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JMBarrie / Re: J. M. Barrie's personality
« on: November 18, 2020, 01:00:52 PM »
Yes it's true. It's difficult to say if it's in someone's 1st nature (function) to be a certain way or not. We will never know. He could be another type too like the Adventurer for example. I think he liked realism sometimes too like the latin names of the birds (so maybe he thought it was his dominant trait when it was actually not) so I don't know but I like guessing.

For the introversion vs extroversion, it is said that it is not necessarily if you're shy or like to stay home but how you reload your battery, if you take your energy from being alone or in a small group then you're likely to be an introvert as a 1st trait. I think we all have a dominant trait but we can be both like you say so it's difficult to say which one is in someone's first nature or second one.

P is for perception, it's how someone perceive things before or when doing them. J is for judgment so for example, I must judge things before doing them, I must plan them, analyse them, make lists,...
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JMBarrie / Re: J. M. Barrie's personality
« on: November 18, 2020, 12:09:41 PM »
Thank you very much for your answer  :D

I'm not so sure he was an introvert anymore, indeed. I did some research and now I think he maybe was an extrovert cause he played cricket, he was shy but wanted to seduce the ladies, he was an excentric. I would say his last letter could be P cause my J (the fact that I must plan and control everything is what keeps me on the ground, what makes me unable to fly away when I want it, just on the thought of it).

You made me laugh with the tropical disease :D
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JMBarrie / J. M. Barrie's MBTI personality
« on: November 16, 2020, 04:14:12 PM »
Hi everyone,

I've recently learned more about the 16 personalities of the Myers Briggs' test and I was asking myself what the 4 letters of J. M. Barrie could have been. I'm pretty sure he was an introvert. I think he was more in the intuition than in the facts, realism, although he once said "I thought I was a realist",  I think and more in the emotions than in the thinking. I don't know if he planned things ahead too muchn I don't think so. If he did, it's in the judgment box (he had to judge things before doing them), if not in the perception one. It would make him an INFP. I'm INFJ and I think he could have been an INFP and some things Barrie said in the documentary make me think of me like "If I can help...". I'm always trying to help others before myself, to do good for them. He said he was in contradiction too and it's common with the xNFx's. I know he's not alive anymore to take the test himself and if he would have taken it and would have shared it (private) but if you have an opinion, I would be glad to hear it.

I think Sylvia was more of an extrovert type. Maybe the Amuser personality? I don't know... We don't have much information about her... Do you have some that could help Mister Birkin?

Thank you a lot in advance,

Sylvia
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JMBarrie / Re: The Cause of Barrie's Impotence
« on: November 16, 2020, 03:41:17 PM »
I have the same opinion you do Mister Birkin. I think you can see through people really well
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JMBarrie / Re: The Cause of Barrie's Impotence
« on: October 06, 2020, 01:47:21 PM »
Hi Dani,

Yes, I wanted to say he tried, he wanted to be able to be married but it wasn't for him. You can be aromantic but like romance and want to have romance but it's not you. One can even dream about romance but be unable to show some in real life.

Sincerely,

Sylvia

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